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rickmar

im looking at starting a hobby in sublimation that can hopefully pay for itself if not make a bit. i like the thought of doing vinyl print t-shirts, transfered t-shirts, printed mugs, plates, clocks, jigsaws, cases, glass photos, coasters etc
i want good quality in everything i do.
a few questions i have are:-
1) is it worth bothering with second hand equipment?
2) i like the look of the cameo silhouette cutter, is there better for similar price bearing in mind i feel i need a3 for t-shirts.
3) are the 5,6,7 in 1 heat presses any good or should i look at individual plate, mug and t-shirt presses?
4) whats a good printer, paper, inks for t-shirt, glass and ceramic transfers, again a3?
5) any good uk companies for blanks?

James990

All your questions have been answered within the forum, some of them more than once! So suggest you get a cup of tea/coffee or what ever you drink and read the forum postings!

rickmar

i struggle to read the threads on my (all i have at moment) so i was hoping someone experienced could quickly comment.
oh well, here comes the bad eyes 8-)

Justin

I'll try and answer quickly, save your eyes a little ;-)

1. Yes if you can find decent equipment that works well. Not much point in buying cheap equipment second hand unless you're on a really tight budget. You might get a much better press for your money, i.e. Adkins etc. second hand but might have to hunt for one.

2. Silhouette is a fantastic little cutter and until you use one you won't realise just how good. Software is also fantastic and very easy. bear in mind the 12" max width limitation, otherwise hard to beat at this price. You could get Chinese cutter for same price but if the width is ok don't bother.

3. If you can afford good named brand separates all good and well personally (and this is imo) I have never rated the 5 in 1's etc. but I know plenty of folk that do. Again, this may be a compromise but personally I don't feel the need for it.

4. All subli printers will produce the transfers you need for those items. If you're dye subb'ing A3 obviously you'd need an A3 printer. Ricoh is by far the best way to go for someone new to the business. A4 Ricoh are very reasonably priced, A3 are considerably more. Ask yourself if you really need A3 or will most work be vinyl?
You could look at Epson with CIS (bulk system) but these are prone to issues. Save yourself a lot of time and frustration and put your money into a Ricoh. You'll see folk using non authorised inks (Sawgrass hold a patent on subli ink in small format) and whilst many get great results you'll not be able to get support from this forum (the best place) and may have issues longer term, consistency and so on.

5. We have a sticky list in the general section, take a look here. Plenty of decent (and a fe not so) companies in the UK, no need to look any further.

6. Aha there was no 6 I hear you say??? If there was it would be, what's the best single item i can buy for my new venture? That would be a £10 annual subscription to this forum. OK, I am of course biased but on a serious note, if you were to buy a press/printer etc. from one of our supporting suppliers, Xpres or Listawood for example, you'd immediately get 10% off which could be a substantial amount.

OK, get to a PC and as we always say, grab several cups of tea and spend the rest of today and tonight reading the forum, you'll come away with all the answers you need and so much more :-)

pisquee

You say that you'v only got a for reading the forum - you're going to need to computer (windows or OSX) to be able to print for this new venture, unless you get someone else who has the printer and computer set up and you pay them to print the transfers for you.

rickmar

im working away wich is why i only have my .
my laptop is old but has cs6 on. think its running vista.
i saw the uk suppliiers shortly after posting this so yeah that was a silly question
ive not seen much bad about the cameo silhouettr and like the price so im happy with that.

still bees to look further into if i require a3 or a4 printer and then the presses.
cheers

pisquee

If wanting to do t-shirts, then hold an A4 piece of paper and an A3 piece of paper up to a t-shirt and decide which you think is going to be the better sized print.

rickmar

the ricoh a4 seem reasonably priced. am i right in saying that gel ink is not the same as sublimation ink as some say gel ink and some say sublimation although i think if im buying new i will be better taking up the £10 membership and buying all from one of the discounted companies.
my thoughts are that if i get a4 and decide i want a3 then i nees to buy again. is there any downside to owning an a3 but only printing a4 on for mugs?
cheers

Scotty@BMS

The downside of owning the A3 printer is the initial outlay which is a great deal more than the A4. Over time it should even out as you'll save cash in the long term using the high capacity cartridges. It really depends as to what you intend to print on your t-shirts as to whether you should take the plunge with the more costly A3 model.

Also, +1 for the Cameo. Sheets can be pre cut to 300mm x 500mm, and I don't see the need for bigger. But that's obviously just my opinion. ;)

rickmar

scotty, how do you mean "can be pre cut to 300mm x 500mm" ??
i dont like to see the a4 straight edged prints, once im home ill have to find some a3 and a4 and see what i think. i dont think a4 is going to be big enough and id rather do a single print with everything lined up nicely than 2 prints and something be of centre to the other.

Scotty@BMS

I mean that cotton flex and flock can be cut to size to pass through the Cameo. You cut the media then heat press onto the garment, basically giving you the ability to press one or two colour designs onto dark and cotton garments which you obviously can't achieve with sublimation unless you were using SubliDark or SubliFlock papers.

rickmar

ok. thought everything came in standard a3, a4 etc sizes and just feed through then cut of where finished.is there different papers to print onto for different materials and colors etc?
one last thing. is using vinyl on t-shirts not classed as sublimation then?

rickmar

im assuming cotton flex and flock are "vinyls"

Scotty@BMS

Vinyl is a misnomer, you cut vinyl for cars, window signs, etc. There are a raft of specialist papers for t-shirt printing that are printed with laser printers. And no, cutting flex and pressing it to a garment is not sublimation.

rickmar

ok cheers. is there a guide/list anywhere as to what papers you need for what garment material/colour.
upto now i thought there was just 1 type of paper (obviously different brands) that you printed onto and then pressed onto any blank t-shirt, mug, case etc.
i understand the process of cutting the fabrics with the cameo and that some stretch, some dont etc so need to be suitable for the garment. i just thought you meant the fabric had to be cut to size before fed into the cameo.

Scotty@BMS

If you're printing sublimation one type of paper covers all your bases, sublimation paper. Flex and flock are made specifically for garment printing so as long as you have a decent brand they should certainly stand up to the rigours of wear and washing for a good long time.

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If you are just starting to build up the materials needed for sublimation printing, I would advise you to prioritize getting the best sublimation paper. An essential part of the process is printing on adequate paper, as it will release your sublimation ink onto your chosen substrate. Every set we recommend in this guide works wonders across different substrates, the choice should just come down to your overall preference on thickness and budget.

For beginners, you are better off buying something affordable that comes from a recommended brand rather than worrying about the nuances &#; testing things out and making adjustments is all part of the sublimation journey.

What sublimation paper should you use for the best results?

The A-SUB 125 GSM is the ideal paper to use in an Epson EcoTank or Dye-Sub printer. It absorbs the colors very well and has a high transfer rate onto a wide variety of blanks like t-shirts, mugs, tumblers, wood, etc.

Sublimation papers comparison

Even though everyone likes a good mystery, it is better to be upfront while listing sublimation papers. Therefore, we shall start with a quick list and what each paper type is best for:

• A-SUB sublimation paper: Great for Epson printers and Best Overall
• HTVRONT sublimation paper: Superior in terms of printer compatibility
• Hiipoo Sublimation paper: Ideal for fabric
• Printers Jack sublimation paper: Ideal for a wide range of substrates

Best Sublimation Paper: A-SUB

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A-SUB Sublimation Paper 8.5×11 Inch 110 Sheets ONLY Compatible with Sublimation Printer and Sublimation Ink 125g

• No fracturing, Fast dry
• Transfer rate&#;98%
• Apply for white or light colored high quality polyester, material with cotton content&#;30%, premium ceramic&tile, case&metal plate, tumblers, mugs(must be coated)
• Sheet Size: 8.5&#; X 11&#;, 110 sheets/pack, suitable for DIY your holiday gift
• Only work with sublimation ink, regular ink doesn&#;t work. Only compatible with sublimation printer

Pros

• Offers an excellent transfer rate

• Quick drying mechanism

• Affordable

• Comes in a wide range of sizes and thickness choices

Cons

• Some heavy paper and large sheets can be expensive. 

Starting from a competitive price point for the smallish 4&#; x 9.5&#; sheets, A-SUB&#;s line of sheets is highly competitive and &#; in my mind &#; the best sublimation paper set on the market today. With compatibility ranging from top-of-the-line sublimation printers through to Epson&#;s range of convertible printers, this paper is ideal for any situation.

Want more information on a4 sublimation paper supplier? Feel free to contact us.

As for the substrate, this paper works really well with blended fabrics, polyester, and polyamide. While the company urges you to try the same on hard substrate, I would recommend sticking to the fabrics for now, especially if you are a newbie. The ink-based compatibility is also extensive, with SawGrass Sublijet UHD, Hiipoo, and Cosmos ink variants working seamlessly with the same. 

You can choose from an extensive array of sizes such as 8.5&#; x 11&#;, 8.5&#; x 14&#;, and 13&#; x 19&#;. Plus, there is an option to opt for the number of sheets you want to get for each size, with the stacks ranging between 110 to even 150 sheets per the preferred size. This makes your life easier in case you always follow highly specified printing instructions with a focus on size.

You can pick anything between 75 GSM to 140 GSM, depending on the substrate you are looking at. However, these paper sheets have a standard drying time of 60 to 120 seconds, which you must keep in mind for perfect design infusion. 

Do note that 75 GSM paper is the lightest and precisely meant for fabrics and faded images. You can use 90-100 GSM sheets for glass, metal, and even ceramic substrates.

All this makes for a fantastic set of sublimation paper options. And whilst your choices to get more expensive at the higher end, A-SUB remains the best sublimation paper manufacturer on the market

Best Sublimation Paper for Vivid Colors: HTVRONT

HTVRONT Sublimation Paper 8.5 x 11 Inch &#; 120 Sheets Easy to Transfer Sublimation Paper for T-shirts, Tumblers, Mugs (A4)

• Higher Transfer Rate : HTVRONT sublimation paper 8.5×11 offers an over 98% transfer rate efficiency. And you don&#;t need to worry about your sublimation ink smearing or smudging. The thicker coating of sublimation paper keeps inks from bleeding through, and more ink will make its way to your substrate
• Quick Drying : Your printed image is almost dry by the time it prints, saving time and allowing you to go right to sublimation transfer. What&#;s more, HTVRONT sublimation transfer paper can save your ink costs compared to other papers. With less ink used, you&#;ll be finishing more projects
• No Paper Jam : Our sublimation paper is thicker and sturdier, which makes it easier to use during sublimation printing as it prevents creasing and also withstands stress. Meanwhile each sheet is packaged well without edge curl, never causing any jamming in your printer. As an added feature, this sublimation sheet comes with a logo pattern on the back, making it a snap to determine the printing side
• Wide Compatibility : Our 8.5×11 sublimation paper is compatible with inkjet printer such as Epson, HP, Canon, Ricoh, Sawgrass, etc. With HTVRONT sublimation ink and inkjet sublimation paper, you can easily do sublimation on light colored polyester fabrics(T-shirt, pillow, bag etc), coated items(coaster, mug, case, puzzle, metal plate, key chain) and material with cotton content&#;30%
• Professional Quality : We specialize in craft materials and tools and have confidence with our products. Our sublimation paper will ensure that your design can withstand multiple washes without fading. Please store the sublimation paper in a cool, dry area to avoid direct sunlight, heat, and humidity. The remaining must be put back into the box

Pros

• Excellent transfer rate

• Excellent printer and substrate compatibility

• No curling and bleeding

Cons

• Higher chance of paper jam

• Works best with HTVRONT ink

For highly detailed and vivid colors that transfer directly to your choice of t-shirt or other substrate, consider HTVRONT&#;s range of sublimation paper. Also known for their ink ranges, this brand delivers great quality with tremendous value for money.

You can own any inkjet printer, and this sublimation paper will work like a charm. I tested it with one of my all-time favorites &#; the Sawgrass Virtuoso SG500 &#; and everything, right from the print quality to the transfer rate, was impeccable. Do note that the HTVRONT sublimation paper works equally well with printers from HP, Canon, Epson, and more. 

Naturally, you can expect the best results with the  HTVRONT sublimation ink, especially if you plan on working with light-colored fabrics, including bags, t-shirts, and pillows. If you have any substrate where the cotton content is less than 30%, this paper type is the one to go with. Plus, the uniform 125 GSM basis weight makes the sheets act like heavy paper, making it highly useful for sublimation blanks other than fabric. 

One issue I did encounter was that the heavier paper did cause jams more frequently, which was frustrating to encounter. They&#;re still rare, but it was noticeable. I still recommend the HTVRONT sublimation paper, for tremendously vivid colors at a great price per page!

Best Sublimation Paper for Polyester: Hiipoo

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Hiipoo Sublimation Paper 8.5×14 Inch, Work with Sublimation Ink and E Sawgrass Inkjet Printers for Mugs T-Shirts Light Fabric and Other Sublimation Blanks (110 Sheets, 120G) (C-8.5×14)

• INSTANT DRY & HIGH TRANSFER RATE: Hiipoo sublimation paper 8.5×14 comes out of the printer completely dry, you don&#;t have to wait for the paper to dry. Over 98% Ultra High transfer rate, maintaining true color and precision plus greater ink saving.
• NO GEAR PRINTS & SMOOTH PRINTING: 120G Hiipoo sublimation paper gives good elasticity. The thicker design ensures that the paper will not roll and maintain a good flatness, bringing you a pleasant printing experience.&#;Note: The white side is the printing side, the pink side is the back side&#;
• EASY TO USE: [1] Print the image using an inkjet printer with sublimation ink, and check the &#;Mirro Image&#; setting. [2] Adjust the recommended heat press setting, put the sublimation blanks on the heat press machine. [3] After heating is finished, peel the transfer paper. The transfer has been done! In just a few minutes you can realize an idea of your own.
• WIDE APPLICABILITY & UNIQUE GIFT: With Hiipoo sublimation paper you can transfer text, images onto light-colored fabrics with &#; 30% cotton or polyester, mugs, tumblers, case, puzzle, mouse pad, ceramic plate, bag, cup, etc. Make unique DIY gifts to your friends or family on Mother&#;s Day, Father&#;s Day, Birthday, Thanksgiving, Easter, Halloween, Christmas, Valentine&#;s Day, or Wedding Day.
• PACKAGE CONTENTS & WARM TIPS: The package contains 110 sheets of Hiipoo 120g sublimation paper 8.5×14, with instructions for use on the back of the package. Use this paper with sublimation ink and sublimation blanks only. Works well with E, Sawgrass, Ricoh, and other sublimation printers, excellent for use with hiipoo sublimation ink.

Pros

• One of the best transfer rates

• Affordable

• Works with a wide range of printers and substrates

Cons

• Some curling on occasion

I always recommend Hiipoo sublimation ink to people just starting out in sublimation, as I find it&#;s the best sublimation ink on the market. Whilst I don&#;t rate their range of sublimation paper quite so highly, it&#;s still ideal for common substrates such as polyester.

The variant that I choose comes with 110 sheets, each of 120GSM. Each sheet was 8.5&#; x 11&#;, making it useful for mugs and medium-sized t-shirts. As it is a 120 GSM paper type, the pressure and temperature requirement would be on the higher side. This would ensure that the ink transfer is optimal. The transfer efficiency of Hiipoo&#;s sublimation paper is close to 98%. This ensures that almost every bit of the ink gets infused with the substrate. The ink dries almost immediately after it gets out of the printer.

Even though the tackiness was more than adequate for me, you might even want to try those heat-resistant tapes to keep the paper aligned with the substrate. I have had the paper go through some significant curling in the past. Still, for getting started in sublimation printing with reliable sublimation paper, you could do a lot worse &#; just be sure to have some tape on hand&#;

Best Budget Sublimation Paper: Printers Jack

Printers Jack Sublimation Paper &#; 8.5 x 11 Inches, 150 Sheets 120 gsm for Any Inkjet Printer with Sublimation Ink, Heat Transfer Sublimation for T-shirt, Mugs, Light Fabric

• UPGRADED QUALITY: Printers Jack sublimation paper 8.5&#; x 11&#; -inch sheet size has been upgraded, can be stored for a long time without bending or jamming. Make sure you have the following things, sublimation ink (NO regular ink), inkjet printer, heat press machine ( NO iron ), colored or white polyester fabrics and polyester coated items ( material with cotton content&#;30%).
• COMPATIBLE: Our sublimation printer paper compatible with all inkjet printer with sublimation ink,&#;Epson, HP, Canon, Ricoh, Sawgrass, etc.
• HIGH QUALITY: Over 98% transfer rate, NO fracturing, NO fade, fast dry. The finished products are beautifully decorated with bright, vivid colors. Reduce production cost by less ink consumption, save you tons of money!
• EASY TO USE: The inkjet sublimation paper is easy to use, easy to apply any design from your computer to printer to fabric, please read instruction carefully before use.
• UNIQUE GIFT: Our sublimation transfer paper can be used for T-shirts, ceramic mugs, pillow cases, cases, canvas bag, mouse pads, you are able to create personalized and specialized to give as a gift designed and created on your own, it&#;s also a good way to increase your sublimation business.

Pros

• High transfer rate

• Comes in a wide range of sizes and basis weight options

Cons

• Possible bleeding or jamming

With a 98% transfer rate and an affordable price point, the Printers Jack range of sublimation paper is the best budget range on the market. Each sheet costs around 15 cents, which is why I recommend it to those on a budget.

Despite its affordable price, this sublimation paper boasts excellent substrate compatibility. You&#;ll be able to use it on nearly every possible material, from plates to cases. You can choose between 8.3&#; x 11.7&#;, 8.5&#; x 11&#;, 13&#; x 19&#; paper sizes, among a few other variants depending on your preferences. Printers Jack allows you to get 105 GSM, 120 GSM, and 125 GSM versions of each. The maximum temperature for any use case is 374°F (at 120 GSM).

Any higher than that, however, is where the issues arise. Bleeding is a likelihood at higher temperature ranges, which can be unfortunate for more specialist materials. For most standard applications, however, Printers Jack&#;s range is ideal for sublimation on a budget!

What is sublimation paper?

In simple words, the sublimation paper is the link between your creative designs and them being placed on your choice of surface. 

Let&#;s imagine diving back into the wonderful realm of sublimation. To create beautiful designs on various sublimation blanks, you would first need a sublimation printer, which in turn would require sublimation paper. The paper isn&#;t any other paper you would see.

Sublimation paper is coated with a chemical. A special concoction that does many things like absorbing the sublimation ink, helping the ink turn into a gaseous substance in contact with heat, and eventually facilitating the transfer of the now-gas ink inside the choice of sublimation surface or blanks. Sigh, that&#;s a lot of heavy lifting for a paper.

• The paper works when you simply print the design onto it using the printer (not a lot different than your usual printing job).
• Once done, you just need to place it on your choice of surface (t-shirt, mug, etc.), transfer the right amount of heat (no, blowing won&#;t work), and, eureka, the design will show up on the surface. 

But that&#;s an overly simplistic version of how the sublimation paper works. To know more, check out our detailed post on &#;How to use Sublimation Paper.&#; Let us focus on knowing more about what a sublimation paper (the creative canvas) is.

However, it doesn&#;t work with cotton fabric and other natural fabrics.

Even if you print the design on cotton, it will appear less vibrant. After a single wash, the colors will fade even more because of the ink&#;s inability to bind with nat

Apart from these factors, you also need to consider the transfer rate (higher the better), drying time (lower the better), heat resistance, brand reputation, and even the price before purchasing. 

FAQs

What is basis weight?

Basis weight is the weight of the paper type, based on &#;grams per square meter&#;.

What is considered heavy paper?

Anything from 120 to 150 GSM is considered &#;heavy&#; paper, which is generally thicker. For thicker materials such as hoodies or bags, a heavier GSM paper is more suitable.

Final Word

Across the range of different options, the best sublimation paper for one may not be the best for all. I hope my breakdown of my recommendations were insightful, and that you now have the right materials for your next sublimation project. Ultimately you just need to choose from one of our favoured brands above and start testing out which paper thickness works best on your projects.

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