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I dont make them. I own a facility overseas that makes them. I'm not a scrapper or a metal enthusiast. Just business.

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As well, have you donated to this site? That at the very least seems like the proper thing to do, since you are part owner in this company and you must have some funds to invest in asking people for help. I'm not sure if you understand the value of the information you are requesting. I would expect you to either hire someone with the knowledge and experience, or pay them a consulting fee to help you realize your intent, or at the very least offer to pay them in some way.

We help each other on this site. As a business, I have donated to this site, I believe it only right considering the wealth of information at my fingertips or using a simple forum search. I would suggest you do the same if your intent is to use the information, that has real value to someone like you if what you have stated is in fact truth. You would stand to make a sizable profit, and that profit would be as a direct result of asking questions here and receiving valuable answers.

Just the information that has been freely given in this thread in regards to your question has value. For that information alone, even if you never glean any other useful information, you should donate something to this site so that it might increase it's financial independence and continue to provide a place for all those who have helped you, and those who contribute to the knowledge base of this site.

Considering how very little good solid information is floating around the internet, in this industry, free of charge. And considering that this is probably the single most important internet resource in regards to

I have owned several businesses, yet still I cannot fathom or reason you seemingly utter lack of understanding in regards to what you are asking. Or in your complete lack of knowledge as to how this industry works, specially since you live in the United States.

One more suggestion. You may benefit from contacting the US Embassy in the country of your companies origin. They have people on staff, who's sole intent is to help facilitate trade between the United States and other countries. They should be able to provide you with a wealth of information, as they have been trained and work to facilitate business with companies like the one you say you are part owner in. I spent many years in the international trade arena, and that's really what it is like an arena. I cannot even begin to express what an important resource the American Embassy can be in regards to international trade.

My comments might seem snarky, but I am asking them seriously as it really does shock me that you seem to have no knowledge about the industry your company is involved in. If anything I have said or suggested is outside what is actually true, then please state it and I will apologize, happily, in this thread. I tend to say exactly what I think and feel without reservation, my intent is not to insult but instead understand what seems to be incongruent to me in regards to your business and your questions.

Scott

I am utterly baffled why you believe that someone who is a scrapper or metal enthusiast would be able to help you. If this is a real company in operation, why don't you have a metallurgist working with or for you to facilitate your intentions? Why have you not sought the proper method of preparing your Al alloy prior to attempting to find a buyer? Why have you not utilized the volumes of experience and knowledge you have access to using simply google searches?As well, have you donated to this site? That at the very least seems like the proper thing to do, since you are part owner in this company and you must have some funds to invest in asking people for help. I'm not sure if you understand the value of the information you are requesting. I would expect you to either hire someone with the knowledge and experience, or pay them a consulting fee to help you realize your intent, or at the very least offer to pay them in some way.We help each other on this site. As a business, I have donated to this site, I believe it only right considering the wealth of information at my fingertips or using a simple forum search. I would suggest you do the same if your intent is to use the information, that has real value to someone like you if what you have stated is in fact truth. You would stand to make a sizable profit, and that profit would be as a direct result of asking questions here and receiving valuable answers.Just the information that has been freely given in this thread in regards to your question has value. For that information alone, even if you never glean any other useful information, you should donate something to this site so that it might increase it's financial independence and continue to provide a place for all those who have helped you, and those who contribute to the knowledge base of this site.Considering how very little good solid information is floating around the internet, in this industry, free of charge. And considering that this is probably the single most important internet resource in regards to scrap metal , I would encourage you to make a reasonable donation to this site if your intent is to profit from the information you receive in regards to your questions.I have owned several businesses, yet still I cannot fathom or reason you seemingly utter lack of understanding in regards to what you are asking. Or in your complete lack of knowledge as to how this industry works, specially since you live in the United States.One more suggestion. You may benefit from contacting the US Embassy in the country of your companies origin. They have people on staff, who's sole intent is to help facilitate trade between the United States and other countries. They should be able to provide you with a wealth of information, as they have been trained and work to facilitate business with companies like the one you say you are part owner in. I spent many years in the international trade arena, and that's really what it is like an arena. I cannot even begin to express what an important resource the American Embassy can be in regards to international trade.My comments might seem snarky, but I am asking them seriously as it really does shock me that you seem to have no knowledge about the industry your company is involved in. If anything I have said or suggested is outside what is actually true, then please state it and I will apologize, happily, in this thread. I tend to say exactly what I think and feel without reservation, my intent is not to insult but instead understand what seems to be incongruent to me in regards to your business and your questions.Scott

However, I will also recommend some simple chemical tests, for the sake of DIY folks. NOTE: While "simple" these methods are NOT SAFE unless proper precautions are taken. I will be discussing the use of some highly corrosive and some mildly toxic substances. Eye protection and gloves are a must! The reactions will also release heat and flammable gasses (also possibly splashing the corrosive contents, so use vessels > 5x bigger than the solutions they contain).

By dissolving known quantities of the metal in question in either acid or base you can learn a fair amount about what's in it (I would recommend a gram or two of metal to begin with--larger quantities will give more precision in determining the composition, but danger scales non-linearly with size--if you double the size of your reaction, it is wise to treat it as 4x as dangerous etc.)

Aluminum will react with concentrated solutions of sodium hydroxide in water (20 grams of NaOH dissolved in 80 mL water), as will zinc, and probably silicon. Magnesium, nickel, copper and iron will not react with this alkaline solution, and will remain as solid precipitates (note, these precipitates may be quite flammable, even pyrophoric, when dry KEEP THEM WET--see Raney nickel:

Aluminum, zinc, magnesium and iron will all react with concentrated solutions of hydrochloric acid (add 30 mL of concentrated HCl, sometimes called muriatic acid, to 70 mL water). This will leave nickel, copper, and silicon behind.

In each case you can separate out the precipitates (by filtration or centrifugation, or just decanting.) KEEP THEM WET! They can then be dissolved using nitric acid. The species in solutions (original and dissolved precipitates) can be determined by reaction with chemical indicators (such as 2,10-phenanthroline) or by using solubility profiles to selectively precipitate out salts of each metal.

Neutralize all acid and base solutions before discarding them. Never mix nitric acid with organic compounds.

AGAIN: DON'T TRY any of this until you have done your research, figure out how to protect yourself (and your friends, family, pets, neighbors etc.) and have a plan for executing the experiments, as well as contingency plans for spills and fires (be prepared!)

I agree with ↑. Often the cheapest, simplest way to answer such a question, is to pay someone who has the means to answer it!However, I will also recommend some simple chemical tests, for the sake of DIY folks. NOTE: While "simple" these methods are NOT SAFE unless proper precautions are taken. I will be discussing the use of some highly corrosive and some mildly toxic substances. Eye protection and gloves are a must! The reactions will also release heat and flammable gasses (also possibly splashing the corrosive contents, so use vessels > 5x bigger than the solutions they contain).By dissolving known quantities of the metal in question in either acid or base you can learn a fair amount about what's in it (I would recommend a gram or two of metal to begin with--larger quantities will give more precision in determining the composition, but danger scales non-linearly with size--if you double the size of your reaction, it is wise to treat it as 4x as dangerous etc.)Aluminum will react with concentrated solutions of sodium hydroxide in water (20 grams of NaOH dissolved in 80 mL water), as will zinc, and probably silicon. Magnesium, nickel, copper and iron will not react with this alkaline solution, and will remain as solid precipitates (note, these precipitates may be quite flammable, even pyrophoric, when dry KEEP THEM WET--see Raney nickel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raney_nickel Aluminum, zinc, magnesium and iron will all react with concentrated solutions of hydrochloric acid (add 30 mL of concentrated HCl, sometimes called muriatic acid, to 70 mL water). This will leave nickel, copper, and silicon behind.In each case you can separate out the precipitates (by filtration or centrifugation, or just decanting.) KEEP THEM WET! They can then be dissolved using nitric acid. The species in solutions (original and dissolved precipitates) can be determined by reaction with chemical indicators (such as 2,10-phenanthroline) or by using solubility profiles to selectively precipitate out salts of each metal.AGAIN: DON'T TRY any of this until you have done your research, figure out how to protect yourself (and your friends, family, pets, neighbors etc.) and have a plan for executing the experiments, as well as contingency plans for spills and fires (be prepared!)

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